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John Gove
Joined: 07.02.2015

May 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
John Gove: Dealing First Round Pick is Lightning's Best Option
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
John Gove: Dealing First Round Pick is Lightning's Best Option
- John Gove

14th overall, Tyler Johnson, Jason Garrison

to the Islanders for

Calvin de Haan, Ryan Strome, Scott Mayfield
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 18 @ 3:11 PM ET
14th overall, Tyler Johnson, Jason Garrison

to the Islanders for

Calvin de Haan, Ryan Strome, Scott Mayfield

- eichiefs9

(frank) that is a very intriguing deal.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
(frank) that is a very intriguing deal.
- Feds91Stammer



The Islanders would probably need a corresponding move to clear a little more cap space, since Johnson + Garrison would probably end up being worth around $10M/year between the two of them. Or for Cal Clutterbuck to maybe get hit by a bus or something.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 18 @ 3:17 PM ET


The Islanders would probably need a corresponding move to clear a little more cap space, since Johnson + Garrison would probably end up being worth around $10M/year between the two of them. Or for Cal Clutterbuck to maybe get hit by a bus or something.

- eichiefs9

Halak buyout if Vegas doesn't take him?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
14th overall, Tyler Johnson, Jason Garrison

to the Islanders for

Calvin de Haan, Ryan Strome, Scott Mayfield

- eichiefs9


Same deal but for

Justin Faulk, Phil Di Giuseppe and Ryan Murphy

lol nah
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
give me some of what ever your smoking
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 18 @ 3:38 PM ET
give me some of what ever your smoking
- nyislsbossy

wut
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 18 @ 3:55 PM ET
Id have to think garrison goes to vegas and TBL add a pick to make that happen, as no trade clause will make him tough to deal.

TBL 1st, Matt Carle (Buyout$$$) and Braydon Couborn(cap dump if wanted)

to van for Edler
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 18 @ 3:57 PM ET
Hedman is playing in worlds with Edler. Says good things about him. Do you think that's a fit for Bolts in a win now to deal pick? Salary retention is possible for Canucks as well. Thoughts?!?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 18 @ 3:58 PM ET
There will be no shortage of teams willing to part with their first rounder this year. All but about 5 teams in the NHL are looking to win now, or take that next step.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 18 @ 3:58 PM ET
Id have to think garrison goes to vegas and TBL add a pick to make that happen, as no trade clause will make him tough to deal.

TBL 1st, Matt Carle (Buyout$$$) and Braydon Couborn(cap dump if wanted)

to van for Edler

- mauryballstein


Hey bud didn't see you also just posted an Edler trade. Well wonder what the Bolt fans think.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
Halak buyout if Vegas doesn't take him?
- Feds91Stammer

Meh, I'd rather give them a second round pick to take Kulemin...assuming my trade scenario went through, of course.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

May 18 @ 4:44 PM ET
Drouin + 14th + Cap Dump (Coburn/Calahan).

Tanev + Sven B + 33rd.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

May 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
Drouin + 14th + Cap Dump (Coburn/Calahan).

Tanev + Sven B + 33rd. []


lol no
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

May 18 @ 4:50 PM ET
14th overall, Tyler Johnson, Jason Garrison

to the Islanders for

Calvin de Haan, Ryan Strome, Scott Mayfield

- eichiefs9


Not bad. Would definitely prefer this route to dealing Drouin
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

May 18 @ 4:50 PM ET
(frank) that is a very intriguing deal.
- Feds91Stammer


I thought you didn't want to deal TJ?
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 18 @ 4:53 PM ET
Hedman is playing in worlds with Edler. Says good things about him. Do you think that's a fit for Bolts in a win now to deal pick? Salary retention is possible for Canucks as well. Thoughts?!?
- Nuck4U


Heddy is paired with Stralman. I dont see a connection there, but Edler has played well this wc. Havent been to sold on him last couple of years.

/a swede
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
Not bad. Would definitely prefer this route to dealing Drouin
- uf1910

From an Islanders standpoint, I wouldn't even have interest in Drouin. That's not to say that he isn't a phenomenal talent, but we have two somewhat-similar guys already in Ho Sang and Barzal that are likely penciled in for roster spots next year. They need a second line center, hence Johnson, because it would be a mistake to throw Barzal directly into a 2C role this early in his career.

de Haan is coming off his best season to date and is an (arb-eligible) RFA. Strome is signed through next year at $2.5M and would be a good middle 6 forward on the Bolts. I don't think very highly of Mayfield, but he's cheap and actually played somewhat well in limited action last season. He'd be an affordable 7th defenseman that can be plugged in as needed.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 18 @ 5:39 PM ET
Hedman is playing in worlds with Edler. Says good things about him. Do you think that's a fit for Bolts in a win now to deal pick? Salary retention is possible for Canucks as well. Thoughts?!?
- Nuck4U

Edler is bad and so is Tanev. Hard pass.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 18 @ 5:40 PM ET
From an Islanders standpoint, I wouldn't even have interest in Drouin. That's not to say that he isn't a phenomenal talent, but we have two somewhat-similar guys already in Ho Sang and Barzal that are likely penciled in for roster spots next year. They need a second line center, hence Johnson, because it would be a mistake to throw Barzal directly into a 2C role this early in his career.

de Haan is coming off his best season to date and is an (arb-eligible) RFA. Strome is signed through next year at $2.5M and would be a good middle 6 forward on the Bolts. I don't think very highly of Mayfield, but he's cheap and actually played somewhat well in limited action last season. He'd be an affordable 7th defenseman that can be plugged in as needed.

- eichiefs9

If Beau, Ho-Sang, Barzal, and MDC don't all have prominent top 9 roles the Islanders should be relegated to the ECHL.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 18 @ 5:42 PM ET
I thought you didn't want to deal TJ?
- uf1910

In that package you return what I consider a top 4 D, a middle 6 winger, and a youngish depth D man all while freeing up cap. This is much more intriguing than the 1 for 1 idea of trading Johnson for a D man.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 18 @ 6:34 PM ET
If Beau, Ho-Sang, Barzal, and MDC don't all have prominent top 9 roles the Islanders should be relegated to the ECHL.
- Feds91Stammer

First 3 will. I'm nearly positive that MDC will, and should, start the year in the AHL. He had a decent rookie season but he has work to do. I never liked that pick much and I still don't. I have a sneaking suspicion that Dal Colle will be trade bait, also.

My guess, assuming no major changes up front, is Ho Sang gets the 2nd line RW spot. Barzal centers the 3rd line with Beau and Chimmer flanking him. I'm also assuming that the Islanders acquire a 2nd line center here, which seems to be on their shopping list.
BoltsFan1993
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: NS
Joined: 06.27.2014

May 18 @ 7:34 PM ET
14th overall, Tyler Johnson, Jason Garrison

to the Islanders for

Calvin de Haan, Ryan Strome, Scott Mayfield

- eichiefs9


I'd definitely do it. Come on Yzerman throw this at old Garth.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 18 @ 7:53 PM ET
The Wild have to go to a 7-3-1 expansion model to protect Nino, Granlund, Coyle and they have 5 top 4 defenders. They are going to have to move 2 of them or pay a ransom to Vegas to leave 1 alone and still trade 1.

They are the ideal trading partner for the Lightning in the fact they also have I think a cap situation that is probably worse then the Lightnings. They really can't take on a large contract like a Johnson or Drouin might want.

What would it take to get either Brodin or Dumba?

14th + ????
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